{"id":21181,"date":"2024-07-30T08:50:04","date_gmt":"2024-07-30T12:50:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/worldscreen.com\/tvdrama\/worldscreen.com\/"},"modified":"2024-08-05T11:04:38","modified_gmt":"2024-08-05T15:04:38","slug":"freedom-scripteds-mike-ellen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worldscreen.com\/tvdrama\/freedom-scripteds-mike-ellen\/","title":{"rendered":"Freedom Scripted\u2019s Mike Ellen"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Freedom Scripted opened for business in 2018, founded by former BBC, STV and World Productions executive Mike Ellen, who now serves as managing director and creative director of the Glasgow-based label. The company has since opened offices in London and Berlin as well to continue expanding its focus on high-end drama. The label has a range of projects in development, including adaptations of the Alex Morrow detective novels, <em>Engleby<\/em>\u00a0and\u00a0<em>Ayesha\u2019s Gift<\/em>. Ellen talks to\u00a0<em>TV Drama<\/em>\u00a0about the company\u2019s creative ethos, the book-based IP it has in its pipeline, the company\u2019s first-look deal with All3Media International and the challenges and opportunities in the current market.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TV DRAMA:<\/strong>\u00a0What does Freedom Scripted bring to every project it works on, and what does it look for in projects it becomes involved in?<br \/>\n<strong>ELLEN:\u00a0<\/strong>There\u2019s a pretty interesting term [that] somebody we were talking to recently coined: subversive mainstream. I really like that because we do want to make entertainment, we want to make shows for big audiences, but we want to bring something a little different to the table. We also look for character-led pieces, a little bit of wit and mischief and something that will give the audience a takeaway, a show that [they] want to talk about with their friends, at work the next day or online. Something that\u2019s relevant as well.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TV DRAMA:<\/strong> With last year\u2019s strikes in the U.S. rippling throughout the industry, current economic conditions and the state of disruption everyone\u2019s dealing with, how is Freedom Scripted navigating the climate?<br \/>\n<strong>ELLEN:<\/strong> In a weird kind of way, we\u2019re in a fortunate situation in that we are quite a new company. We\u2019re just about to make our first show. So, we haven\u2019t been used to any particular way of doing business. In that sense, because we\u2019ve been in development to this point rather than production, it probably hasn\u2019t affected us as much as it has others. I think where it did impact us was the squeeze on finances and budgets. For a new indie like ourselves, we traditionally go to the likes of BBC and Channel 4, and those broadcasters have had pressures to deal with and have been making less programs at the same time. There\u2019s obviously been a lot of churn and change with streamers, but I think it\u2019s worth bearing in mind that we\u2019re still in a kind of boom for scripted content. There\u2019s still a huge desire among audiences for that. If you get the right show, as a few shows have shown recently, you can still attract huge audiences to your streamer or your broadcast. It\u2019s about just staying calm, but then maybe ripping it up and starting again in terms of your business model and how you think about what your particular strengths are as a company, without giving up on your values and your company culture. It\u2019s been a challenging time, but there [are] always opportunities when there\u2019s change as well. It may be that we\u2019re not quite so accustomed to certain ways of doing business, certain margins and what have you, so we\u2019re a little bit less blown off course by some of the things that happened. Obviously when it comes to the strikes, there was definitely a ripple effect or a knock-on effect in the U.K., but it wasn\u2019t as direct as it was in the States.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TV DRAMA:<\/strong>\u00a0You mentioned that with change comes opportunity as well. What do you think are the biggest areas of opportunity in the drama business over the next year or two?<br \/>\n<strong>ELLEN:<\/strong>\u00a0There [are] a lot of different types of opportunity, depending on where you are and who you are. For a company like us, the opportunities are in making high-quality premium drama for more modest budgets\u2014from about \u20ac1 million to \u20ac3 million per hour, which, for some broadcasters and some streamers, that\u2019s actually quite cheap. A lot of European program-makers are used to making programs for under \u20ac2 million and doing it in co-pro. So, I think there\u2019s definitely opportunity for us in that space, and then some of those shows can help us grow to punch through to other price levels. I think co-pros and affordable budget shows are a real opportunity. We\u2019re well placed having our headquarters outside of London and having relatively low overheads and having to be quite innovative in how we make shows. We\u2019re quite well placed to take advantage of some of those opportunities. Also, this kind of changing of the guard or flipping of how things are done, that does create openings for newer talents, more diverse talents and general creatives who will grab an opportunity with both hands.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TV DRAMA:<\/strong>\u00a0What has been working best in scripted lately in terms of genres? What do you think is driving that trend?<br \/>\n<strong>ELLEN:<\/strong>\u00a0The hardy perennial is crime. The genres and precincts that work best in TV traditionally have always been crime, with some medical and legal and things like that. I think it\u2019s because they\u2019re high stakes. Depending on what kind of show you\u2019re making, if you\u2019re going to any kind of volume, those kinds of settings and precincts throw out high-stakes stories time and time again and grip audiences. They\u2019re not reliant on every writer who works on that show being an absolute genius. Having said that, we are very attracted to genre-adjacent shows with big character stories, a degree of complexity and depictions of the human experience that you wouldn\u2019t find in those big factory shows necessarily. But the obvious genres or set of genres that keep delivering are crime and all its subsets.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TV DRAMA:<\/strong>\u00a0Early last year, you signed a first-look deal with All3Media International. What has that relationship meant for the company?<br \/>\n<strong>ELLEN:<\/strong>\u00a0The first thing is it helps us support our slate, and it joins the dots in terms of our very early-stage creative discussions with writers or around IP and how we would chart a path for that potential show through to distribution. It means that we\u2019re able to have those chats at an earlier stage and think about not only how to get commissions but how to make sure those local programs go to global audiences. That obviously feeds back to what we decide to go with and what we decide to work on because nobody wants to be developing things that don\u2019t have a shot at getting made. So, it\u2019s the art of the possibility for us.<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, there\u2019s a degree of market intel when you\u2019re working with a company like All3Media. They can let us know what the trends are, what\u2019s been commissioned in other territories and share some stories from our local market. Then, of course, we\u2019re thankfully at a stage now with one of our shows where we\u2019re looking to put a finance plan together. Already having an existing relationship with All3Media means that we just lift the phone to them, and we can start that chat even before greenlights.<\/p>\n<p>Also, to be honest, there\u2019s a degree with a small company, a startup company, of affirmation and brand associations. So, if we\u2019re going into a broadcaster and they know that we\u2019re already working with the likes of All3Media or BBC Studios or any other recognizable distributor, then it gives them a bit of comfort, like, All right, these guys roughly know what they\u2019re doing and they can probably deliver a program on budget and in a professional manner.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TV DRAMA:<\/strong>\u00a0Last year, Freedom Scripted opened new offices in London and Berlin. Tell me what drove that decision and what kinds of opportunities this opens for the company.<br \/>\n<strong>ELLEN:<\/strong>\u00a0The first thing is we\u2019re very keen to make the most of the original headquarters being in Glasgow and in the nations and regions of the U.K., but at the same time, we don\u2019t expect any special favors because of that. We absolutely want to compete and set our bar as high as any indie in London or the rest of the world. As in other territories, there\u2019s usually one or two cities where there\u2019s a real concentration of agents and broadcasters who are there to make decisions. In the U.K., that place is London still. So, in terms of having those meetings, picking up informal intel and being seen as a serious player, I think it\u2019s good to have a presence, however modest, in London. Our head of development is based down there. We\u2019ve got a base at Somerset House, and it means we can use that when we\u2019re down there. Our head of development is always with me or a colleague when we go in to see people. It just makes an awful lot of sense in terms of practicality but also how we\u2019re perceived. We want to be local, but we want to be\u00a0 competing with everybody else.<\/p>\n<p>In terms of Berlin and Germany, that\u2019s a long-standing, slightly accidental but organic connection we have. I had a couple connections over in Germany, in Berlin in particular. When I started the label off, then that grew. We\u2019re working with some German showrunners who are one of the leading showrunner teams in that territory on an English-language show. Then, we have a show in development with BBC that\u2019s set in Germany. We\u2019ve got a number of other different connections and bits of IP and shows that have German connections to them. The other thing is Berlin is like one of the centers of the world creatively. So, there are tangible connections over there. We\u2019re working on shows set there. We\u2019re working with talent there. But then, it\u2019s just an incredibly cool place as well. We\u2019ve very keen to be a European as well as a U.K. company. To be honest, being from Glasgow, we weren\u2019t enormous fans of Brexit, and we\u2019re determined not to look inward, and look outward to our nearest neighbors, who are in Europe. So, there are all sorts of cultural reasons and hopefully business reasons as well for us to have a footprint over there.<\/p>\n<p>Again, it means we\u2019re not pigeonholed as being a Scottish company or a U.K. company. We\u2019re out there meeting people and talking to people from further afield. I think there\u2019s huge opportunities in Europe as well because the language barrier is effectively breaking down, even since the company started. There [have] been many examples of co-productions across territories of even English-language shows being made in Germany and so on and so forth. It\u2019s only going to get more like that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TV DRAMA:<\/strong>\u00a0You recently announced that you\u2019re adapting\u00a0<em>Engleby<\/em>\u00a0for the screen, as well as\u00a0<em>Ayesha\u2019s Gift<\/em>, and you previously signed on to adapt the Alex Morrow detective novels. What do you look for in a novel to determine if it would be ideal for the screen?<br \/>\n<strong>ELLEN:<\/strong>\u00a0First of all, you are usually looking for some identifiable genre elements. In the case of all three of those, there is an unconventional crime plot running through them. In\u00a0<em>Ayesha\u2019s Gift<\/em>, there\u2019s a kind of investigative strand. In\u00a0<em>Engleby<\/em>, there\u2019s a highly unconventional mystery strand. In the case of the Morrow series, they\u2019re more conventional detective thriller books. There are literary aspects to, for instance,\u00a0<em>Engleby<\/em>, and there\u2019s a sort of true-crime or true-life aspect to\u00a0<em>Ayesha\u2019s Gift<\/em>\u00a0and also a really interesting geopolitical aspect to it and an aspect that deals with British identity or second-generation South Asian-British identity. So, there [are] lots and lots of interesting things going on, but there\u2019s something to hang those elements on, which talks to genre and talks in this case to investigative crime and those sorts of things. But above all, we need to love those books and love the author and find the right screenwriter to do justice to them. That\u2019s a huge factor. Having IP is not the be all, end all, but it is great when it works. It does help, probably increasingly, but at the same time, we don\u2019t worship at the altar of IP.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TV DRAMA:\u00a0<\/strong>Is there anything else you\u2019d like to add about what Freedom Scripted is working on?<br \/>\n<strong>ELLEN:<\/strong>\u00a0One of the most exciting shows we\u2019re working on is a legal show called\u00a0<em>The Devils<\/em>. That\u2019s with one of the U.K.\u2019s most exciting up-and-coming writers, Namsi Khan. She\u2019s just written on the most recent season of\u00a0<em>True Detective<\/em>. She\u2019s served time in writers\u2019 rooms and writing episodes for shows like\u00a0<em>His Dark Materials<\/em>,\u00a0<em>The Midwich Cuckoo<\/em>\u00a0and\u00a0<em>Humans<\/em>. We\u2019ve been trying to work with Namsi for ages, and everything just came together on this particular development. So, we\u2019re developing that for BBC Drama. It\u2019s set in Edinburgh for a U.K.-wide audience, about trainee advocates, their life in court, their life outside of court, the challenges of making it in that world. It\u2019s got a little bit of industry, maybe a bit of blue lights and maybe a bit of a show like\u00a0<em>The Good Wife<\/em>\u00a0or even going way back, there was a show that was really big called\u00a0<em>This Life<\/em>. It\u2019s one of the most exciting things we\u2019ve worked on. It\u2019s such a great script. Namsi has done an amazing job. 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